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Comments about National Geographic TOPO! Outdoor Recreation Mapping Software - California:
This is good if you want to have one product that serves as a map for all of california, including urban areas. It is detailed and functional. There are two problems. 1) Besides heading to Kinkos, you can only print maps that are 8x11. You end up with a lot of sheets of paper. 2) You only carry with you what you print. This seems obvious, but when improvising on trail it leaves you limited. After buying this software I still find myself gravitating towards old fashion maps and books for an entire park.
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Although National Geographic and REI claim that this software is "compatible" with GPSs such as Garmin, you need to read the fine print. You can't download the maps to your GPS! AFTER your trip, you can download waypoints and overlay them on the maps. In other words, if you don't make it back alive because you got lost because you couldn't read the map on your GPS, then your heirs can download your last steps before your demise and view them on a lovely 3-D map on your home computer.
This is a complete ripoff.
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These topo map programs are great to map out your routes and print your maps at home. I've used this program to map out tips for several years. It's easy to find trails, survery the area, see elevations, and search for features like campgrounds, established trails, and mountains. These are the same maps you get from local dealers and that the forest service uses but you have them on your own computer to use all the time. We have recently even started to use them to map walking distances for my wife in town as well as my trips. It's nice to know the terrain of a hike whether it's a hike to a secluded spot on the river with the dogs or a backpacking trip. They have been invaluable on trips along with our GPS. In case the GPS can't find satelites you should always have printed maps. They are easy to read. I always print mine on the waterproof adventure paper so they will stand up to our trips. That paper is thick, won't tear, and is waterproof. Depending on your printer the ink may bleed through the back of the adventure paper but that's only an issue if you print double sided. With our printer I can print on both sides so I have an overview map of the area on one side and a close-up view with details on the other. I highly recommend both the map program and the adventure paper.
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Full of bugs.
Data transfer:
Both the GPS upload and download buttons take you to a download only page.
Find:
If you want to "find" a place by name go to "edit". If you want to find the same place by coordinate go to "view". Defies common sense.
The Find window highlights the wrong (dead) buttons (FIND is highlighted instead of GO).
The "Find within X miles of anchor" does not work.
Print:
Unable to print waypoint list (this is a very basic flaw that Topo addresses by telling you to take a screenshot!). Incompatible with X printer list is vast.
Finally, customer support is only by email and the emails are computer generated responses that rarely if ever understand your issue.
With so many other great mapping solutions out there, I wouldn't consider Topo for the Mac.
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Comments about National Geographic TOPO! Outdoor Recreation Mapping Software - California:
The latest update now plays very nicely with Macs and GPSes. Could be a bit more intuitive, but after spending 5 minutes with the manual, it's very easy to use.
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Comments about National Geographic TOPO! Outdoor Recreation Mapping Software - California:
I have been using Topo back when it was a Wildflower Productions product in the early 90's.
I use it primarily for:
-creating geotiff raster maps for shareware GPS mapping applications
-documenting my travels (used to be hiking/backpacking, but now that I have kids and more money, Jeeping, dry carcamping, and rock art hunting)
-sharing travel instructions and highlights with my friends and family members who wish to follow a similar route
This is a GREAT product if you can get a boxed set of XportPro (now discontinued) to go with it to export GeoTiff maps for use in other GPS mapping programs, such as OziExplorer. This in turn can let you create maps for WinCE GPS devices running NoniGPSPlot. NatGeoMaps used to be able to unlock this functionality by calling customer service, but they have recently quietly killed off their entire TopoPro line of products (including for ArcGIS).
Admittedly, geotiff, mrsid, and other georeferenced raster maps can be downloaded for free from most states, but it will take quite a while to do so and you will miss out on the ability to annotate your maps with pictures and comments as most shareware programs do not have this functionality.
Similar mapping functionality can be had from Google Earth, but this forces you to rely on "cloud computing" which isn't practical in the field when Internet access isn't available.
Sharing annotated maps is much easier using Google Earth, but once again, you need to feel comfortable keeping your data on a remote server (Google Map data is only secured by obscurity and is publically viewable by anyone who has the right URL).
Since my entire family is running Topo, it is no big deal to share .tpo files instead. I also have the confidence of knowing that this data will be available to them on their laptop regardless of where they are traveling.
If I didn't have the ability to pull out GeoTiff from the State Series, I'd give this product a 3 star rating.
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Comments about National Geographic TOPO! Outdoor Recreation Mapping Software - California:
This is good PC mapping software that prints quality maps and has many features, but read the product capabilities closely.
Being mapping software when it said compatible with and would down load to my eTrex Vista C I thought that I could get those nice map on to my GPS to enjoy in the wilds. NO, the maps do not down load.
A second issue is, if you use the Tracking on feature with the eTrex as you hike it keeps track of where you went. Then come in and up load the track the map on the PC is covered with waypoints not the track. Found a way to turn a track made in this software in to Waypoints, I am still looking at how to turn the waypoints in to a track.
This was a 90% miss on what I intended to use it for. If you want maps on your GPS do not buy this.
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Comments about National Geographic TOPO! Outdoor Recreation Mapping Software - California:
I bought the March, 2008 version of this software. I do a lot of backpacking in California, i.e., at least 4x/year, so I needed a good source for maps since the better free on-line maps no longer exist. I bought this primarily for the fly over and 3D features of the mapping. The problem was that every time I tried to load these utilities, the entire program crashed. Despite the most heroic efforts by their service department, including the extreme measure of having me modify the executable code in the program controlling the 3D mode, the latter only worked one time and then crashed. This was with a state of the art NVIDIA graphics chip on my brand new laptop.
The one time the 3D feature did work, the 3D graphics were extremely crude.
The printing is also awkward. When you click on the button to print a map, it won't just print what is on the computer screen. Instead, a big red rectangle appears on the screen with two diagonals through it connecting the corners. This rectangle is superimposed over the map. What is within this rectangle is what will be printed, about 75% of what is showing on your screen. You can move the rectangle and expand it although expanding it will not necessarily print the portions of the map in the newly expanded rectangle area. What is really frustrating is that once you have this big red rectangle superimposed over your map, you cannot get rid of it. You have to close the map and reopen it again.
The route finding tool works well. When you build an elevation profile it will calculate mileages, presumably making accomodations for changes in terrain elevation, at least as shown on the map. That is a useful tool and the only advantage this program has over a commercially printed 7.5' map.
In short, this program provides good basic topo maps, printing is adequate within its limitations, and mileages given after building a route elevation profile are the best feature of this software.
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